. >> so far, senator durbin has limited company among some fellow democrats. keeping them honest during the last budget showdown, both sides talked like this, but then they backed away. also as we mentioned a moment ago, there are late new signs that nobody's quite ready to cut a deal. another round of white house talks between congressional leaders and president obama was promised but is yet to materialize. a senate democratic leadership aide telling us that staff level meetings meant to lay the groundwork haven't been productive. one senate republican leadership aid accuses democrats of leaking details in order to portray republicans negatively. but the aide notes that the talks are continuing, which itself can be read as some sort of progress. whether that's real progress or washington progress, remains to be seen. a lot to talk about starting with tennessee republican senator bob corker. senator corker, thanks very much for joining us. let's talk about grover norquist. no new taxes pledged. you said earlier in your career, you told cbs morning news earlier